tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5401280171563686515.post3785331842328644900..comments2024-03-12T12:54:32.926-07:00Comments on Life After Mastermind: Mastermind - Round One - Heat 11Londiniushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07871325359167581176noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5401280171563686515.post-53475189689069635232012-02-09T05:57:09.534-08:002012-02-09T05:57:09.534-08:00Re.names, I did clarify this on the show itself. T...Re.names, I did clarify this on the show itself. The rule on Eggheads is full names, on MM it is surname, with occasional odd exception like Madonna. Lady Caroline Lamb was not however Madonna and was not known simply as Lady Caroline, any more than her husband was known as Lord William or her lover as Lord George. I think it was possibly just a mistake that it was accepted. You sort of assume when you hear Lady Caroline that the Lamb is about to follow. <br />I thought the Eastwood set were entirely reasonable. Not only am I a full-time film journalist, but I am a fan of Eastwood too - anecdotes about my lunch with him available on request. I scored 7, compared with 13 I got on the Cold War a few weeks back. I didn't remember Philo Beddow. I remembered Clyde, and would have got Beddow if I had prepped, but no way is that a Weakest Link question.bjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15575475115415555273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5401280171563686515.post-54014787212221704992012-02-09T00:44:46.109-08:002012-02-09T00:44:46.109-08:00Interestingly, while Humphrys did indeed make a po...Interestingly, while Humphrys did indeed make a point of saying "Yes, FLORA MacDonald" when responding to my answer there, when I answered "Johnson" to another question (who did Boswell tour the Hebrides with?)he simply said, "Yes, Johnson" with no further clarification. However, it was my last question, and i answered after the buzzer, so maybe that was the reason?<br /><br />And as for it being a general quizzing rule, that's probably true for the most part, but i've played in a quite a few pub quizzes where a full name was needed for the point and a surname would only get you half a point.Horsey_Heroes11https://www.blogger.com/profile/13210340772795053472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5401280171563686515.post-88581402366176849872012-02-06T11:26:39.658-08:002012-02-06T11:26:39.658-08:00Hi Jeff
Interesting question. Now that you mentio...Hi Jeff<br /><br />Interesting question. Now that you mention it I don't recall whether the surnames only rule was ever mentioned in the briefings. I think it's kind of a general rule in quizzing - or as it was put to me a good twenty years or so ago - it's christian names for show , but surnames for dough. <br /><br />In the 2007 Grand Final I was asked for the name of the new England cricket coach. I was fairly sure it was Peter Moores, but to be on the safe side I just said "Moores". John gave me the point, but made a point of saying "Yes. PETER Moores " as he often does when you give him just the surname. <br /><br />I did actually notice the Lady Caroline answer while I watched the show, but never made a note of it in my notes for the review. Hmmm. I think the contender was a little lucky not for John to ask for a little more for that answer.Londiniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07871325359167581176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5401280171563686515.post-42733407794099337362012-02-06T08:01:50.726-08:002012-02-06T08:01:50.726-08:00The “Lady Caroline” point is an interesting one. ...The “Lady Caroline” point is an interesting one. I personally think that the answer was specific enough to be allowable – if he’d have said “Caroline”, then probably not, but the word “Lady” added enough context for me.<br /><br />I compare this to one of the questions I received in my GK round, namely “who rowed Bonnie Prince Charlie across the sea to Skye” (or words to that effect.) Now, I was 95% certain that it was Flora MacDonald, but didn’t want to risk the 5% chance of being wrong so simply said “MacDonald – and was awarded the point.<br /><br />I don’t see a lot of difference, other than the standard mastermind convention of allowing surname-only answers.<br /><br />And on that point, is it actually an official mastermind rule that surname-only answers are ok, but first names aren’t? I don’t remember reading anything in the rules I received and it definitely wasn’t brought up in the briefing we had before filming.Horsey_Heroes11https://www.blogger.com/profile/13210340772795053472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5401280171563686515.post-9127792712575160472012-02-06T05:58:25.260-08:002012-02-06T05:58:25.260-08:00Yes accepting "Lady Caroline" was a shoc...Yes accepting "Lady Caroline" was a shocking error on the part of the MM production team. If I was the other chap I would be gutted to lose on that basisGruffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04248577840110150085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5401280171563686515.post-10618714867443033952012-02-04T13:34:37.205-08:002012-02-04T13:34:37.205-08:00Now, it has pointed out elsewhere that Jonathan...Now, it has pointed out elsewhere that Jonathan's 'winning' answer was the chestnutty "who said Byron was mad, bad and dangerous to know?" and to my ear he seemed to answer with "Lady Caroline", no surname - and got the point.<br />As Jacques Derrida used to say, WTF????<br />To be fair, can't say there were many SS gimmes on this show - disagree with Daniel and agree with yourself - I thought that the Clint Eastwood set was entirely reasonable in its difficulty level - not questions the average fan would know IMO. The following show, on the other hand....oh dear, oh dear.drgaryegranthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02660095695123216649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5401280171563686515.post-78827234840974613352012-02-04T12:19:53.650-08:002012-02-04T12:19:53.650-08:00Hi Daniel
I 'm not arguing that it wasn't...Hi Daniel <br />I 'm not arguing that it wasn't easy for a real Clint Eastwood fan , but I used to like his films a lot, and have seen many of them, and did think that some of them were asking quite intricate details which only a really detailed knowledge of the films could provide. I think the probalem was that the easy ones - Play Misty for Me and Philo Beddow come to mind - were ridiculously easy gimmes. I don't know that even those two were easy enough for TWL though !Londiniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07871325359167581176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5401280171563686515.post-25885219014238998492012-02-04T07:34:11.144-08:002012-02-04T07:34:11.144-08:00I have mentioned a similar thing on TQA but the Cl...I have mentioned a similar thing on TQA but the Clint Eastwood round was way too easy to be a SS round. Most of those questions would not be out of place on the opening rounds of Weakest Link!DanielFullardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07635161450969202410noreply@blogger.com